Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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A faded JW about to see the Circuit overseer

by pleaseresearch in

so my mum who is in and really is finding it hard that i have left and faded.

shes asked me if i want to the the circuit overseer next week.. i have never met him and this is more my mum wanting me to get my problems i have with the organisation out.

but should i share everything i've learnt or what?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I dealt with some COs during my fade, but I knew how the game was played. My circumstances were very different from anything "normal". In my case, the first was an a$sho!e of a CO when I was still an elder who helped start my fade. Then we had a sub-CO who was "nice" and requested to meet with me privately. Turned out he was a rather condescending prick and made it easier for me to continue my fade. Then yet another new CO requested to meet with me privately. He actually admitted the local elders were idiots and he asked me for advice. He left the circuit just a couple of months later. Yes, it was something I said.

At this point, I would never meet with another CO, nor would I encourage anyone else to. Why bother? The bad COs will only make you hate WT more. The good COs will just tell you jokes or listen sympathetically if you talk. They are just WT middle managers, nothing more.

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Wow. When I was a dub, I couldn't imagine trying to get money from a non-JW and particularly not from someone dfd. Talk about bringing reproach on Jehobo's name.

They are a giant family too and they are all witnesses,

Although I'm the type that would help out my family, you can't support all of your big family. They need to rely on Jehovah... or more realistically, some of them better get jobs. This is a good economy in the US right now, they better take advantage of it while it lasts.

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Hi your df but your invited to the memorial but we will not welcome you or talk to you .

by poopie in

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friends

but your welcome to come as guest we just will not talk to you stupid idiot

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

They're passive-aggressive to the degree that they need to regularly remind you that they're not talking to you.

Jesus did that all the time.

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The Way JW Females Act

by LaurenM in

the more i interact with non-jw men and women the more i notice that i still behave like a jw woman.

when i interact with people (men especially) i find myself being super submissive and docile.

acting like i don't have a brain and can't make decisions on my own.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Do any other exJW woman find themselves acting this way?

I'm not an exJW woman, but as an exJW I find that I may tend to be obedient/compliant/weak-willed at times around "superiors". To my credit, they love me at work both because of my skill and my psychology to get everyone to cooperate productively. Enough about me...

How did you learn to stand up for yourself and not always bend to what others tell you to do?

My opinion and experience: First step is to literally "stand up" with good posture and confident body language. It affects how others view you and how you view yourself. Next, I listen carefully to every interaction and usually have a notebook with me to note things down. If this is a request from someone not my boss, I check with my boss. I have lots to do, so he has the option of telling me to drop it or place it somewhere in my priority. Then, I play through scenarios in my head of how something may play out.

I think I've become an easy target for people looking to take advantage of others.

Learn from the examples of others around you on how to peacefully navigate your workplace. Take incremental steps to where you want to be.

I hope this is helpful somehow.

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So Thankful

by BeautifulMind in

i was just sitting here on this beautiful saturday afternoon thinking about how thankful i am that i left the jws.

do i wish i had woke up and left sooner, sure.

but i'm definitely happy that i'm out period, and for so many reasons but i just will share a few.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

"Jesus Effing Christ! We build a snazzy website with stunning videos and the smart ones are still leaving Watchtower in droves!"

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Leaving the JWs

by Hurting in

i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome!

Hurting is part of healing. It reminds you that you're still alive.

We were raised under the manipulation of a cult.

WT wants us to be as helpless as little children, emotionally weak, and dependent up others for any sense of self-worth. We were fed a steady diet of FOG - fear, obligation, and guilt.

In my personal journey out, I was able to receive free professional counseling at the university, which helped me immensely. One of the things that it helped me to do was differentiating between how WT had conditioned me to feel about things vs. how I really felt about things vs. how reality was different than all these "feelings".

That is a lesson I still come back and visit frequently. I still often "feel" or think that I "should feel" lonely, depressed, anxious, stressed. In reality, my circumstances are filled with opportunity and I have every reason to be happy and optimistic! Although I sometimes "feel lonely", I stop and ask "who do I want to be around right now?" First answer is, "not a JW who will police what I say or do." And typically I continue, "I've been around people all week, being alone is nice so I can eat, watch, do what I want, when I want."

Good luck with everything... PARTICULARLY WITH COMPLETING YOUR EDUCATION!

WT could take away my position in the congregation and separate me from most of the "friends" I have known. But they can never take away my engineering degree!

"Holy Crap! These ex-JWs are getting degrees and going on to live happy, successful lives! Turn up the FOG!"

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

Is this Donald Trump trolling here to look for a new wife who can speak English and might appeal to religious conservatives?

Donald, post a picture of your hands as an indication of what you have going on down there for the ladies.

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

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friends

only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Thanks for sharing your personal experience about learning the truth about the truth! Here's my favorite line:

We’re going to go to Vegas and play poker and have fun.

That's the perfect answer to this question...

"Leave da troof? But where else would you go?..."

"We’re going to go to Vegas and play poker and have fun."

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Animals were created without needing Toilet Paper ... but not Man ... Why???

by RubaDub in

my dog and other pets do their "business" and run away and are happy.. man does not have that luxury.

any thoughts on why animals were created with the "poop and go" capacity while man has to go through more steps?

was this perhaps an additional issue that god added on when adam and eve sinned (such as eve having significant more birth pains)?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Perfect people don't poop. The perfect digestion system would utilize everything eaten by the perfect mouth. The Bible says that Jesus ate and drank, but it never says he pooped or peed... because he NEVER did. Even when Jesus was a kid and his parents couldn't find him, every other parent would look for their normal kid in the bathroom, but Mary and Joseph knew that was someplace Jesus wouldn't ever need to be.

Animals have always pooped and always grown old and died. God made them that way. But he made perfect people to never poop and never grow old and die.

Was this perhaps an additional issue that God added on when Adam and Eve sinned (such as Eve having significant more birth pains)?

It's the "stain of sin." Just like god made the rainbow to remind us about the flood, he made underwear skid marks to remind us about the naked lady eating the apple she got from the talking snake.

Of course there are probably some revilers here who will say, "If we were never supposed to poop, then why do we have buttholes, Billy?" Duh, perfect people have magical farts. Jesus' farts could make the blind see, the lame leap, the dead rise, and lure fish into the nets. Just imagine after armageddon when all the survivors can focus their farts into making a global paradise!

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Gay ex-Bethelite

by Chip Williamson in

just now finding this web site and have enjoyed reading the comments.

i've never written down my story and it could be a jerry springer episode but here goes.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness from as early as i can remember.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome Chip!

Up at WTF, did you hear any of George Couch's morning worship comments about "homos" and his warnings about going to clubs in Greenwich Village like CBGBs?

He had a bizarre way of discussing the subject. It's like it was supposed to be something bad, yet it came across as more entertaining and actually made us more curious about the details. "It starts with a couple of brothers horsing around, wrestling in their underwear, and the next thing you know BAM, they're a couple of homos!" Really George? I think you're leaving out a few details... LOL